Continuous Trading, Path Information, and Parameter Observability
Summary
The document presents an argument that continuous trading in a geometric Brownian motion model lets traders infer volatility and drift from market prices. For volatility, it constructs a self-financing position whose cumulative gains depend on the price path, then relates that quantity to the observed security price. For drift, it invokes a second security driven by the same Brownian motion and a no-arbitrage restriction on their drift-to-volatility ratios. The authors suggest these observations challenge the view that Black–Scholes pricing avoids assuming knowledge of the underlying expected return.
A reply accepts that recovering volatility from the accumulated path is mathematically plausible, while noting that this requires access to the full path, which also reveals quadratic variation. It questions whether the shared-noise argument truly identifies drift, since observed price movements combine Brownian variation and drift. The exchange does not settle the issue or provide practical estimation evidence; its claims rely on idealized continuous observation, frictionless trading, and a special perfectly correlated pair that may not exist in real markets.
Key ideas
- Under continuous observation, the proposed volatility inference uses accumulated price-path information rather than a single price observation.
- The drift argument relies on a pair of securities driven by the same Brownian motion and a no-arbitrage restriction.
- A reply notes that full path access also permits computation of quadratic variation, which carries volatility information.
- The reply questions whether observing combined drift and noise identifies drift separately.
- The argument depends on idealized continuous trading and a special shared-noise setup, limiting its direct practical interpretation.
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# Does continuous trading make drift and volatility observable?
# Does continuous trading make drift and volatility observable?
In a two-page article published in 2026 and titled “Continuous Trading Reveals Expected Returns”, we (Mink & De Weert) show that the assumption of continuous trading - which is standard since Black and Scholes (1973) - implies that traders can directly observe both the drift and volatility of any traded security from market prices alone.
The core of the argument is straightforward. Consider a security $A$ of which the price $S_{A,t}$ follows a geometric Brownian motion (GBM) with drift $\mu_A$ and volatility $\sigma_A$. For simplicity, let the risk-free interest rate be zero. In a continuous-trading model, a self-financing portfolio constructed from risk-free bonds and $1/S_{A,t}$ units of a security $A$ then evolves as: \begin{equation} P_{A,t} = \int_0^t \frac{1}{S_{A,s}} dS_{A,s} = \mu_A t + \sigma_A W_{A,t}. \end{equation} Hence, we can use the solution of the GBM to write the price of $A$ as $S_{A,t}=S_{A,0}e^\left(P_{A,t}-0.5\sigma_{A}^{2}t\right)$, and can rearrange this expression to write $\sigma_A$ as a function of observed market prices (i.e., as a function of $P_{A,t}$, $S_{A,t}$ and $S_{A,0}$). The assumption that continuous trading is possible thus allows traders in the model to directly observe the volatility $\sigma_{A}$ from market prices without the need to somehow estimate this parameter. In a similar way, using a second portfolio across two securities together with a no-arbitrage condition, the two-pager shows that $\mu_A$ is observable from market prices too.
Edit 20-3-2026: After some comments below, we add this clarification of how traders in the model can also observe $\mu_{A}$. Consider a security $B$ of which the GBM contains the same Wiener process as security $A$, so that $W_{B,t}=W_{A,t}$. In real-world financial markets there may not exist two securities with perfectly correlated excess returns, but in the theoretical continuous-trading model there is nothing that rules out this possibility. In this model there simply exist $K<\infty$ securities and there are no assumptions added to prevent some pairs of securities from being perfectly correlated (e.g., a call option and its underlying stock are perfectly correlated in the model, although the former does not follow a GBM of course). Shreve (2004) zooms in on such a pair of perfectly correlated securities and defines the following trading strategy: \begin{equation} P_{AB,t}=\int_{0}^{t}\frac{1}{\sigma_{A}S_{A,s}}dS_{A,s}-\frac{1}{\sigma_{B}S_{B,s}}dS_{B,s}=\left(\frac{\mu_{A}}{\sigma_{A}}-\frac{\mu_{B}}{\sigma_{B}}\right)t+W_{A,t}-W_{B,t}, \end{equation} He concludes from this trading strategy that the no-arbitrage condition implies that if $W_{B,t}=W_{A,t}$ then $\mu_{A}/\sigma_{A}=\mu_{B}/\sigma_{B}$ so that $ P_{AB,t}=0$. In the two-pager, we point out that traders in the model can use this trading strategy of Shreve to identify a pair of securities $A$ and $B$ for which $P_{AB,t}=0$ (as $P_{AB,t}$ is an observed market price). They then have four equations (the two GBM’s for $A$ and $B$, as well as $\mu_{A}/\sigma_{A}=\mu_{B}/\sigma_{B}$ and $W_{B,t}=W_{A,t}$) and four unknowns ($\mu_{A}$, $\mu_{B}$, $W_{A,t}$, and $W_{B,t}$), which can be solved to recover the drifts $\mu_{A}$ and $\mu_{B}$. The assumption that continuous trading is possible thus allows traders in the model to observe the drifts as well.
If correct, this argument shows that if one assumes that continuous trading is possible, one thereby also assumes that traders can directly observe the drift and volatility of traded securities. As a result, for example, the option pricing model of Black and Scholes (1973) implicitly assumes that traders know the expected return on the underlying stock -- which is precisely the assumption its authors believed they had escaped. We therefore wonder whether the above argument is mathematically correct, or whether there is a mistake somewhere?
## Answer by Rylan (score 1)
https://quant.stackexchange.com/a/85529
My responses are a bit too long for a comment.
I may be misunderstanding, and I might be focusing too much on practical points, so feel free to ignore, but:
- It would seem that the argument is that given $P_{A, t}, S_{A, t},S_{A, 0}$, we can observe the volatility. I think this is correct, but as far as I can tell, $P_{A, t}$ essentially requires "viewing" the whole path of $S_{A, t}$, and if we can do that, we can compute the quadratic variation of $S_{A, t}$ and therefore the volatility. I appreciate that tracking $P_{A, t}$ specifically can be a useful "compression" of the path for these purposes.
- It looks like Shreve's argument is $W_A = W_B \to \frac{\mu_a}{\sigma_A} = \frac{\mu_B}{\sigma_B}$, but then the paper says therefore the traders can find $P_{AB, t} = (\frac{\mu_a}{\sigma_A} - \frac{\mu_B}{\sigma_B})t + W_{A, t} - W_{B, t} = 0$. This seems like a special case where two stocks are driven by the exact same Brownian motion process, as opposed to a typical GBM case where stocks are driven by correlated Brownian motions. Even still, I am failing to see how this lets one read off the drift. I think we get basically that the stocks are driven by eg $X_t = W_{A, t} + (\mu/\sigma) t$, which is observable given prices and $\sigma$s, but given $X_t = W_{A, t} + (\mu / \sigma)t = x$, this dosn't seem to reveal what $W_{A, t}$ or $\mu$ is.Shown in full with attribution under the source's licence. Licence: CC BY-SA 4.0 (Stack Exchange)
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