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Estimating Derivative P&L by Integrating Delta Across Price Levels

Article Quant Q&A · Author: Delta_Fore

Summary

The document explains that a derivative’s price change over an underlying price move equals the integral of delta across that interval, so P&L corresponds to the area under the delta curve. It corrects an arithmetic error in the question’s gamma calculation and shows why applying a single average delta across a wide interval can give a poor estimate: that shortcut assumes delta changes linearly between the endpoints.

When delta is available only at discrete price levels, the answer recommends treating it as piecewise linear and summing trapezoid areas over each adjacent interval. Applied to the supplied ladder, this gives a different total from the question’s broad-interval calculation. The result depends on the assumed interpolation between observations; the document does not provide actual derivative prices or establish that piecewise linear delta matches the true path. It is an approximation for estimating P&L from a discrete delta table.

Key ideas

  • Derivative price change over an underlying move is the integral of delta over that move.
  • Using endpoint deltas to estimate P&L assumes delta is linear across the full interval.
  • A wide interval can produce substantial error when delta changes shape within it.
  • Piecewise linear interpolation supports a discrete trapezoidal estimate between adjacent delta observations.
  • The resulting estimate depends on the interpolation assumption.

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# Gamma and delta P&L example question


# Gamma and delta P&L example question












I'm trying to get a basic understanding of this example delta ladder

```
Price  Delta
80     43
90     31
100    25
110    11
120    -5
130    -20
140    -12
150    10
160    15
170    30
```

with spot at 110

So it's long gamma on the upside above 130 but short initially, and short gamma downside.

I want to know in a easy to understand way, what is the delta and gamma P&L if the price were to end up at each of the above price points.

My understanding for say 130 is

```
Delta = 11*(130-110) = 220
Gamma = ((-20-11) * (130-110)) /2  = -310
Total P&L = delta + gamma = -90
```

Thus if the price were to go from 110 to 170 then it's

```
P&L from 110-130 = -90
P&L from 130-170 =
   Delta = -20 * (170-130) = -800
   Gamma = ((30-20) * (170-130))/2 = 200
   Total = -600
Total P&L = -90-600 = -690
```

If this is correct, then is it not the same as the area under the curve ? ie, I can just do a discrete integral?

## Answer by David Durrleman (score 2, accepted)

https://quant.stackexchange.com/a/16145

First, I think you made a mistake in your computations above. Where you wrote $(30-20)$, I think you really meant $(30-(-20))$ i.e. $30+20$, yielding a gamma P&L of $1000$ instead of $200$. Your total P&L over $[90,170]$ would then be $110$ instead of $-690$. It doesn't matter for my answer either way, just thought I'd point it out for confused readers.

By definition, $\Delta = \frac{\partial V}{\partial S}$, where $V$ is the price of a financial derivative and $S$ is the price of its underlying.

So if $S$ experiences a move from $S_0$ to $S_1$, it follows logically that

$$\Delta V = V(S=S_1) - V(S=S_0) = \int_{S_0}^{S_1}{\Delta \mathrm{d}S}$$

So, your P&L is indeed the area under the curve. Now, unfortunately, what you are computing here is not that. Indeed, by writing your P&L as the sum of these simplistic delta and gamma terms, what you really are saying, mathematically, is:

$$\Delta V = \int_{S_0}^{S_1}{\Delta \mathrm{d}S} = \Delta(S=S_0)\cdot(S_1-S_0) + \frac{\Delta(S=S_1)-\Delta(S=S_0)}{2}\cdot(S_1-S_0)$$ i.e. $$\Delta V = \frac{\Delta(S=S_0)+\Delta(S=S_1)}{2}\cdot(S_1-S_0)$$

This would hold if for example $\Delta$ is assumed linear over $[S_0,S_1]$, but unfortunately, isn't true in the general case. For example, over $[110, 130]$, your computed $\Delta$ is slightly concave (it would have to be equal to $4.5$ at $120$ to be linear), so your estimation of the P&L is slightly off. Over $[130,170]$, as the interval is larger and the shape more complex, the error is obviously worse.

A better estimation when you know some values of $\Delta$ over a discrete interval would be to assume that it is piecewise linear in between observations. It would be equivalent to using your method, but over the smallest possible intervals, which is indeed as you suggest the same as doing a discrete integral. In this case

$$\int_{S_i}^{S_j}{\Delta \mathrm{d}S} = \sum_{k=i}^{k=j-1}\left(\frac{\Delta(S=S_k)+\Delta(S=S_{k+1})}{2}\cdot(S_{k+1}-S_k)\right)$$

In your specific case, the computation would yield

$$\Delta V = \left(\frac{11-5}{2}+\frac{-20-5}2+\frac{-12-20}2+\frac{-12+10}2+\frac{15+10}2+\frac{30+15}2\right)\cdot10=85$$

So as you can see, it gives a quite different result ;-)

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