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Estimating Incremental and Marginal VaR from Simulated Scenarios

Article Quant Q&A · Author: OJK

Summary

The document describes estimating incremental value at risk by calculating portfolio VaR from simulated scenario returns, removing one position’s scenario returns, and recalculating VaR. Incremental VaR is the difference between the original and reduced portfolio estimates. It also considers approximating marginal VaR by removing only a small fraction of a position and scaling the resulting difference.

The answer explains that VaR depends on an empirical tail quantile, which can be unstable when few simulated observations lie near the cutoff. Removing a material position may change which scenario determines the quantile, causing incremental estimates to jump. A small position change can make the marginal approximation more interpretable and less sensitive to those jumps, but it does not eliminate sampling error or guarantee stable contributions across positions. The document offers conceptual guidance rather than a comparison using quantified simulation results.

Key ideas

  • Incremental VaR can be estimated by removing a position’s scenario returns and recalculating portfolio VaR.
  • Empirical VaR estimates can vary because the tail quantile is sensitive to the available scenarios.
  • Removing a material position can shift the scenario that sets VaR and make the increment jump.
  • A sufficiently small position change can approximate marginal VaR more smoothly.
  • The small-step estimate still inherits Monte Carlo sampling uncertainty.

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# Incremental/marginal contribution to VaR in a simulation setting


# Incremental/marginal contribution to VaR in a simulation setting












Estimating marginal contributions to VaR in a simulation setting is apparently quite difficult (see e.g. this blog post) due to issues with sampling variability. My question is whether the following approach for incremental (where a position is removed in entirety) has the same issues. In practice I am seeing a lot of variability in the figures, hence my question.

Let $P$ be a portfolio on $n$ assets $X_1, X_2, \dots, X_n$. Suppose also that we are in a simulation setting and so that we have, for some $k$ scenarios $1,2,\dots, k$, the returns for the portfolio $P$ under scenario $j$ given by $$R^j = \sum_{i=1} R_i^j$$ Where $R_i^j$ denotes the return of asset $i$ under scenario $j$. The $\mathrm{VaR}_\alpha(P)$ for portfolio $P$ is then simply the $\lfloor (1-\alpha)k \rfloor$ smallest element of the vector $R_P = (R^1, R^2, \dots, R^k)$.

I wish to calculate the incremental VaR, given by $$\mathrm{iVaR}_\alpha(P_i) = \mathrm{VaR}_\alpha(P) - \mathrm{VaR}_\alpha(P - P_i) $$

To calculate the second term in the above expression I simply subtract the component vector $R_{P_i} = (R_i^1, R_i^2, \dots, R_i^k)$ from $R_P$ and find the new $\lfloor (1-\alpha)k \rfloor$ smallest element.

My question is: is this a sound approach? I am seeing quite a lot of variability in the iVaR figures and so I worry that this approach have the same statistical issues.

If this approach is indeed not problematic, then surely $$\frac{\mathrm{VaR}_\alpha(P) - \mathrm{VaR}_\alpha(P - hP_i)}{h}$$ Should be a decent approximation to the marginal var, i.e. $\partial \mathrm{VaR}_\alpha/\partial P_i$?

Apologies if these questions are basic - I am new in the quant scene and google has unfortunately failed me.

## Answer by Kermittfrog (score 1)

https://quant.stackexchange.com/a/53690

As I see it, in both, a (MC) simulation or a historical simulation, risk estimators (VaR, iVaR, mVaR) suffer from the instability of the quantile. If we had a sufficiently “dense” set of observations around the $(1-\alpha)$ quantile strip, we could compute a weighted average around that quantile and find risk factor and instrument contributions.

Yet, in practice, this is not feasible and we need to resort to some of the estimators you brought forward.

Depending on the task at hand (risk contribution or risk increment?), your incremental ansatz will of course jump from scenario to scenario, if the investment size is material. The marginal ansatz you brought forward will, for small enough step sizes, be quite robust and interpretable as it approximates the marginal VaR contribution.

But even with this ‘stability’ of the estimation, you may still not see a stable contribution vector across all investments. In effect, you cannot solve the issues with the MC sample size, but you can solve the issue with jumping from sample to sample by using your second estimator.

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