How High-Frequency Trading Can Affect Long-Term Investors
Summary
The discussion considers whether intraday volatility and flash crashes matter to investors who hold portfolios for the long term. It distinguishes ordinary short-lived price moves from effects that can persist through trading costs, market impact, and changes in correlations. Spreads, fees, market depth, and liquidity resilience can affect the cost of establishing or adjusting a position, while correlated trading flows may influence relationships among assets.
The answer also describes a hypothetical chain in which a severe crash near a market close could affect prices in other regions, trigger mark-to-market losses, and contribute to forced sales. This illustrates a possible systemic risk rather than evidence that such a sequence is common or inevitable. Suggested safeguards include clearer procedures and certification for trading systems, coordinated circuit breakers, and connecting liquidity across venues. The discussion does not quantify the long-run effect of HFT on portfolio returns or settle the direction of causality between trading flows and correlations.
Key ideas
- Intraday price swings may wash out, but trading costs can affect portfolio value over time.
- Market impact and correlated trading flows may alter asset correlations and portfolio construction.
- A crash near a market close could transmit stress through mark-to-market losses and forced sales.
- The proposed safeguards include stronger system procedures, circuit breakers, and connected liquidity.
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# Why should long-term investors care about flash crashes/ intra-daily volatility/HFT? # Why should long-term investors care about flash crashes/ intra-daily volatility/HFT? I am wondering about implications of the speed of intra-daily trading on the wealth of an long-term investor. I am not necessarily asking about the costs of HFT trading to society but instead I wonder whether intra-daily price fluctuations or, in the extreme case, flash crashes should concern an investor who aims at holding a portfolio for a long time. I can imagine that the following factors are certainly important: - Direct effect when setting up the portfolio (Costs of liquidity, e.g. Spread, Market Depth, Market impact are directly affected by high-frequency market microstructure) - Increased co-movement due to HFT-Traders: Serving as liquidity bridges between natural buyers and sellers, HFT-Traders may hedge their (market-maker like) positions with correlated assets and therefore may increase correlations in general which has an effect on the optimal portfolio structure (see, for example this excellent book). Obviously, intra-daily price movements determine the end-of-day price, and therefore the distribution of long-term returns depends on the intra-daily price fluctuations. However, fast price movements followed by recovery such as during the Apple flash crash on BATS is probably nothing, I would care about if I added some stocks to my retirement plan - isn't this myopic and instead we should be worried if flash crashes occur? ## Answer by lehalle (score 2, accepted) https://quant.stackexchange.com/a/34638 I agree with the implicit idea behind your question that "on the paper, high frequency fluctuations of prices should not affect long term moves". One point is for sure: the volatility we have in mind when we talk about Value At Risk and similar systemic measure has nothing to do with the potential increases of volatility due to high frequency activity. Nevertheless: - the cost of trading affects all investors, hence the value of a position in a portfolio. And trading practices affect this cost, via the bid-ask spread, fees (that can be designed for HFT only), post trading costs and market impact (i.e. liquidity resilence) - market impact affects correlations and as you underline it should matter to portfolio managers. But where is the causality? Asset managers changing the correlations via their correlated trading flows or the reverse? - Last but not least, you can imagine a very bad configuration for the 2010 flash crash. Remember it was between 2pm and 4pm NY time. Hence no other markets (Europe nor Asia) were open. Imagine that the worst point (30min after the start) would have happened a Friday, just at the close of European markets... Add than via correlations, European markets would have closed at -10% because of this... Most probably all positions in banks' books would have had to be marked to market prices on Friday night, and hence it could have been the start of a series of fire sales to cover VaR... Remember it was the start of rumours about the status of Greece debt... This last sequence is a very rare event, but it can happen, and we should try to prevent all these bad points. What are the solutions? some ideas: - reduce operational risk we need clear procedures to put in production trading systems (from exchanges' matching engine to HFT systems and brokers trading algorithms). With need norms and certifications. - improve circuit breakers to stop trading when needed, and connect (to some extend) circuit breakers of different venues. - put all possible liquidity on connected platforms to have as much liquidity as needed. (by the way I like the book too...)
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