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Modeling the Odds and Costs of Passing Prop Trading Challenges

Article Systematic trading blog (Rob Carver)

Summary

This article describes a simulation framework for estimating the probability, time, and expense of passing two proprietary trading firm evaluations. It compares challenge rules, including profit targets, daily loss limits, drawdown constraints, minimum trading periods, resets, and monthly fees. The author says the model uses randomly generated Gaussian returns without autocorrelation and considers how the assumed Sharpe ratio and volatility target affect the chance of success and expected costs.

For the first firm, the text reports that success above 50% requires an expected Sharpe ratio of at least 1.5, with median cost and time estimates varying by assumed skill. It describes a second firm’s tighter drawdown and fee structure, but this excerpt does not show the corresponding simulation results. These estimates depend on simplifying assumptions: returns omit fat tails, fee details are partly approximated, and the model excludes some practical trading constraints. The article also expresses skepticism about pay-to-play challenges and says the analysis is not an endorsement.

Key ideas

  • Challenge rules such as profit targets, daily loss caps, and trailing drawdowns shape the probability of passing.
  • The model generates Gaussian returns without autocorrelation, which leaves out fat-tail behavior.
  • The author says the optimal volatility target depends on both the assumed Sharpe ratio and the objective being optimized.
  • Estimated challenge costs and timelines are sensitive to fee and reset assumptions.
  • The article treats its estimates as a simplified model and does not endorse the firms discussed.

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