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Why GBM Log Returns Are Normal but Simple Returns Are Not

Article Quant Q&A · Author: Jan Stuller

Summary

The document clarifies a common confusion about return distributions under geometric Brownian motion (GBM). A log return is the logarithm of the ratio of consecutive prices; a simple percentage return is that price ratio minus one. Under GBM, log returns are normally distributed. Exponentiating them produces a positive gross return, so the corresponding simple return has a lower bound of minus one and is not normally distributed.

The exchange also explains why log returns are convenient across time: they add over consecutive periods because logarithms turn products of price ratios into sums. Simple returns do not have this additive property. The discussion is theoretical and does not provide an empirical test or a fitted distribution. It cautions that real returns may have fat tails, asymmetry, and time-varying volatility, so neither normality assumption should be accepted uncritically. The conclusion concerns GBM’s mathematical implications, not a claim that observed market returns follow them exactly.

Key ideas

  • GBM assumes normality for log returns, not for simple percentage returns.
  • Exponentiating a normal log return yields a positive gross return and a simple return above minus one.
  • Simple returns are therefore not normally distributed under GBM.
  • Log returns add across time intervals, whereas simple returns do not.
  • Observed returns can depart from normality through fat tails, asymmetry, and heteroscedasticity.

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# Normality or Log-Normality of Regular Returns


# Normality or Log-Normality of Regular Returns












Another old question on this site (How to simulate stock prices with a Geometric Brownian Motion?) inspired me to ask the following question: if we assume that regular returns could be normally distributed, doesn't that entirely invalidate the idea behind the GBM model?

And vice versa, if we like the GBM model and we assume that stock-prices are log-normally distributed, doesn't that imply that regular returns cannot be normally distributed?

Specifically:

Let's denote $R_i$ as regular returns and let's assume that these are normally distributed:

$$R_i=\frac{S_{i+1}-S_i}{S_i}=\mu \Delta t + \sigma W(t)$$.

Let's denote $r_i$ as log-returns, defined as $r_i = ln \left( \frac{S_{i+1}}{S_i} \right)$. Then:

$$ R_i = e^{r_i} - 1 $$

$$ r_i=ln(R_i+1) $$

If we assume that $R_i$ are normally distributed, then $ln(R_i+1)$ is undefined, because Normal distribution produces negative values and $ln(negative)$ is undefined.

(Edit: as per the comments below, I now realize this is a "stupid" thought since regular returns are trivially bounded below by -1, so the log can never be negative: I initially just focused on the hypothetical idea of regular returns being normally distributed, i.e. unbounded.

However the following point is still valid: if $R_i$ is assumed approximately "normally" distributed but bounded by -1 from below, then $ln(R_1 +1)$ still won't be log-normally distributed, so the claim that "assuming $R_i$ to be normally distributed invalidates the assumptions of the GBM model" still holds).

So by this reasoning, believers in the GBM model would argue: regular returns cannot be normally distributed, because we like the idea of stock prices being log-normal (i.e. we like that the future stock-price distribution conditioned on today's value is log-normal: cannot be negative & doesn't have an upper bound, which reflects the real-world behavior we'd expect from stocks). Therefore, based on the GBM model, regular returns have to be log-normally distributed (shifted by "-1").

Reasoning the other way, I am pretty sure that I have seen some papers (apologies, don't have a link and can't remember the name of the authors) that argue that empirical evidence suggests that regular returns are normally distributed. In fact, just a quick philosophical thought: why shouldn't they be? Human beings use regular returns to look at investments, NOT log returns. It would seem sensible at first thought that these regular returns can be negative as well as positive, with a large probability mass centered on zero (or inflation, if $\mu$= inflation): i.e. a "normal" distribution. So if we entertain the idea of regular returns to be normally distributed, that would seem to invalidate the idea of the GBM model.

## Answer by Kevin (score 5, accepted)

https://quant.stackexchange.com/a/55228

You're right but a GBM doesn't assume that percentage returns are normally distributed. It's about log-returns.

- If the log-return $r_t=\ln\left(\frac{S_{t+dt}}{S_t}\right)$ is normally distributed (GBM assumption), then $r_t$ can indeed be any arbitrarily large (positive or negative) number with positive probability. This also implies that stock prices are log-normally distributed.

- Let now $\tilde{R}_t=e^{r_t}=\frac{S_{t+dt}}{S_t}$ be the gross return, which is obviously positive.

- Let $R_t=\tilde{R}_t-1$ be the percentage return, which is bounded below by $-1$ from the above.

If we assume $\mathrm{d}S_t=\mu S_t\mathrm{d}t+\sigma S_t\mathrm{d}B_t$, we know that $r_t$ is normally distributed. However, $R_t=f(r_t)$ with $f(r)=e^r-1$ is not normally distributed. Just derive the distribution for $R_t$ and compare it to the log-normal density.

So, the assumptions of a GBM do not lead to percentage returns being normally distributed. Quite the opposite, they are bounded below by $-100\%$ (you can't lose more than you invested). So, $r_t=\ln(R_t+1)$ could only cause a problem if $R_t=-100\%$ but even that can't really happen in a GBM world: this would require the stock price to be zero in the future (bankruptcy). But the range of a log-normally distributed random variable is $(0,\infty)$, it has to be strictly positive. So, if $r_t$ is normal (GBM is true), then $R_t>-1$ and $r_t=\ln(R_t+1)$ is no problem.

I make one final point

- I wouldn't believe for a second that any kind of return is normally distributed (think of fat tails, asymmetry, heteroscedasticity, etc.) Mandelbrot and Fama already worked on non-normally distributed returns back in the 1960s...

## Answer by stackoverblown (score 4)

https://quant.stackexchange.com/a/55257

The return $R_i$ as expressed in $$R_{i+1,i}=\frac{S_{i+1}-S_i}{S_i}=\mu \Delta t + \sigma \Delta W(t_{i+1},t_i)$$ is not possible.

To see this, let's get the returns over two small time steps of $\Delta t$ each. Then $$R_{i+2,i+1}=\frac{S_{i+2}-S_{i+1}}{S_{i+1}}= \mu \Delta t + \sigma \Delta W(t_{i+2},t_{i+1})$$ but $$R_{i+2,i}=\frac{S_{i+2}-S_{i}}{S_{i}}= 2 \mu \Delta t + \sigma \Delta W(t_{i+2},t_{i})$$ While the right-hand-side is additive, the left is not because $$R_{i+2,i} \neq (R_{i+2,i+1} + R_{i+1,i})$$.

For the log return $r_{i+1,i}$, $$ r_{i+1,i} = \ln\frac{S_{i+1}}{S_i}$$ however, there is no such problem because by virtue of the logarithmic product rule $$ r_{i+2,i} = ( r_{i+2,i+1} + r_{i+1,i} ) $$ holds.

So the $R_{i+1,i}$ cannot be normally distributed with drift.

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