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Why Simple Returns Cannot Be Exactly Normal

Article Quant Q&A · Author: Sanju

Summary

The discussion examines an apparent conflict between modeling log price changes as normally distributed and the bounded support of simple returns. Since prices cannot fall below zero, a simple return cannot be less than −100%, while a normal distribution is unbounded and symmetric. The key distinction is that normality of returns is a modeling assumption or approximation, not a consequence that holds exactly for simple returns.

One answer frames returns as statistics derived from prices and quantities, so their distribution must follow from assumptions about those inputs. It outlines a ratio-distribution approach and gives a particular distribution under restrictive assumptions about equity trading. The answer also notes that real equity returns are affected by events such as bankruptcy, mergers, dividends, and liquidity costs, which complicate the distribution. A second answer emphasizes that normal and lognormal models are simplifications, often used when their imperfections are acceptable. The discussion does not establish a universal return distribution, and its theoretical claims depend on market structure and assumptions.

Key ideas

  • Simple returns are bounded below by −100%, so they cannot have an exact unbounded normal distribution.
  • Normality assumptions for returns are approximations rather than logical consequences of lognormal price models.
  • A return distribution depends on the assumed distributions of the underlying prices and quantities.
  • Corporate events and market frictions can make actual equity return distributions more complex.

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# Distribution of simple returns vs logreturns


# Distribution of simple returns vs logreturns












I understand that stock prices are conditionally modeled using a log normal distribution by the relationship

> $ y_t/y_{t−1}∼logN(μ_{daily},σ^2_{daily})$ $y_t∼logN(log(y_{t-1})+μ_{daily},σ^2_{daily}))$

which implies

> $log(y_t)∼N(log(y_{t−1})+μ_{daily},σ^2_{daily})$ then $\frac{y_t−y_{t−1}}{y_{t−1}}≈log(y_t)−log(y_{t−1})∼N(μ_{daily},σ^2_{daily})$ ....equation(1)

According to above equation(1), returns can be approximated with a normal distribution (for now, we shall IGNORE about FAT TAIL and other problems).

But The simple return is defined by −1 < $R_t$ < ∞,since the price is always > 0

i.e. the minimum value of a simple return is capped at -100% (when $y_t$ becomes zero and hence $\frac{y_t−y_{t−1}}{y_{t−1}}$ becomes -1)

This means the probability density function of the simple return $R_t$ can never be symmetrical which contradicts above equation (1) as normal distribution is symmetrical.

Please guide me on what I missing here. It is clear I am logically wrong somewhere, but I am unable to figure out

## Answer by Dave Harris (score 1)

https://quant.stackexchange.com/a/44866

Let us start with a definition.

Definition A statistic is any function of the data.

Returns are calculated as $$\text{Return}=\frac{\text{Future Value}}{\text{Present Value}}-1=R_t.$$

$$\text{Present Value}=\text{Price}_t\times\text{Quantity}_t=p_tq_t.$$ $$\text{Future Value}=\text{Price}_{t+1}\times\text{Quantity}_{t+1}=p_{t+1}q_{t+1}.$$

So $$R(p_t,p_{t+1},q_t,q_{t+1})=\frac{p_{t+1}q_{t+1}}{p_tq_t}$$

So returns are a function of prices and quantities. As such, you have to derive the distribution and not assume the distribution. It is a statistic just like Student's t-distribution or the F distribution. Fortunately, the solution to this problem has been known since 1941 in the field of statistics.

If you assume $q_t=q_{t+1}$, $p_t>0$ and $p_{t+1}>0,$ then you get a truncated distribution. You are correct, the normal distribution cannot be the distribution of returns. You haven't missed anything.

Using auction theory and assuming no effects from dividends, such as liquidating dividends; no mergers; bankruptcy or effects from liquidity costs then the distribution of equity returns must be $$\left[\frac{\pi}{2}+\tan^{-1}\left(\frac{\mu}{\sigma}\right)\right]^{-1}\frac{\sigma}{\sigma^2+(r_t-\mu)^2}.$$

Because mergers, bankruptcy, dividends, and liquidity costs exist, the actual distribution is a complicated mixture distribution. Likewise, other auction structures, such as English style auctions yield a different distribution and different payout structures, such as those with bonds yield a different distribution.

In finance, you need to translate the center of location to the equilibrium, so that $(0,0)$ is at $p_t^*,p^*_{t+1}$.

The general method to calculate a ratio distribution is as follows.

If $Z=\frac{Y}{X}$, then the cumulative distribution function of $z$ is $D(z)=\Pr(Z\le{z}).$

The density function of $Z$, when the variables have support on the entire real number line, ends up being $$p(z)=\int_{-\infty}^\infty|x|f(x,zx)\mathrm{d}x.$$

The only possible way returns on equity securities could follow a normal or log-normal distribution is if you assume prices and quantities do not exist. Of course, that would make them certificates of deposit. If you remove government insurance, unsurprisingly, they can be modeled with a normal or log-normal distribution because bankruptcy implies a state where no payout may happen.

> Curtiss, J. H. (1941). On the distribution of the quotient of two chance variables. Annals of Mathematical Statistics, 12:409-421. Harris, D. E. (2017). The distribution of returns. The Journal of Mathematical Finance, 7(3):769-804. Marsaglia, G. (1965). Ratios of normal variables and ratios of sums of uniform variables. Journal of the American Statistical Association, 60(309):193-204.

## Answer by Chris (score 1)

https://quant.stackexchange.com/a/45395

You're missing that normality and log-normality of returns and prices are simplifying assumptions. Inspecting skew and kurtosis, it's even more obvious that they're assumptions.

Your example that return going to -100, but exceeding +100 defying the normality assumption is a triviality, particularly given we've already established returns aren't perfectly normal. For the vast majority of circumstances, it's good enough.

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